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    Looking good!

    Any thoughts on how much this thing is going to cost?

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    Oxford? If your name is James Wilton then I know you [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    About the camera, looks good!

    m0ds

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    Saw this on JVC's site. The next year or so should be fairly interesting.

    http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/p...&feature_id=08

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    My guess is that it's going to be around ?3000 or a bit more.

    Looks good though.

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    Hey emjen check out www.DV.com and read the article at the top called "The next ten years"

    Basically it's a look at what some DV experts believe will happen in the next ten years with some different equipment.

    Here's an opinion from someone asked about what will happen with video.

    "Shooting on tape will be dead in 10 years, replaced by some sort of solid-state memory device or even possibly a super-rugged, super-capacity hard drive technology. Perhaps tape will live on in an archiving capacity."

    Oh by the way you need to be a member of DV.com but it only takes a minute to register.

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    1 chip though!

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    Aye. Think I'll stick with my xm2 a while yet.

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    dang, that looks really good.

    In a few years from now I think DV will have replaced FILM, or at least will be able to produce the same type of quality, but then a lot cheaper and easier to edit.

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    Hi-Death is overrated.

    Mini-Dv isn't good enough for true broadcast standards (but it's still pretty good).

    The biggest problem is sony. They are on a mission to develop tinier and tinier tape sizes that are too fragile for many high-end applications.

    It's all profit driven. The smaller the tape, the more profit for same size box of shipped tapes.

    The small tapes are all well and good for personal projects, but when several paid crew members and talent are on location, those small tapes are a JOKE.

    So instead of looking at all the bit-chen hi-def cameras, look at the tape size and specs. That should matter the most. The more we foam at the mouth over cameras while being a dimwit when it comes to recording medium's durability, the more we stay behind the "pack".

    This is a classic magicians trick.

    They divert your attention from what you should be looking at to achieve the trick. Same here, the camera is not as relevant as the reliability of the tape stock.

    Tape stock may go away, but it will be replaced by a computer "standard" that will keep changing every few months.

    The excuse of tape stock "going away" justifies the continued use of an inferior archival format such as mini-dv.

    There's a whole big chasm between Digital Beta-Cam
    and DV-Cam, and that chasm will continue because everyone only cares about the camera rather then the quality/durability of the recording medium the signal is put on.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by machead:
    1 chip though!</font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes, its a single chip camera, but if you start tearing apart the specs, there's an insane number of pixels on the one chip comapred to most other 3 chip DV cameras. I guess that's part of how they're going to try to keep the costs down.

    On a related note, has anyone seen any comparable press releases from Sony, Canon, or Panasonic? I'm curious to see how this little war for Hi Def market share is going to pan out.

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